I've scrounged through the internet and have found many pictures of weird custom jalopies, wrecks, armored vehicles ,and people say ''Looks like something from Mad Max''. Truth be told they don't. Everyone sees a graffited car with random stuff welded all over it or a SUV armored like a tank it's automatically something similar to Mad Max...um it's not.
George Miller ,and the designers were very specific to what the vehicles looked like in Mad Max 2. They were basic and simple. They were just custom cars or old cars with some missing parts.
MM2 CARS: Custom muscle cars or police cars with custom parts like Duel tires,Side Pipes,Blowers,cool paint jobs,spoilers.
Some also had missing parts like lights or a hood but were made to look they would be repaired soon enough.
The missmatched parts like the grills were made to look like they were part of manufactured cars original body
and not crudely welded on. Also Machine guns everywhere in random spots.
OTHER: Other films or people think an example of a MM2 car is that is extremly armored like a tank, has no windows,and
random parts must be welded everywhere with no purpose. The paint job usually consists of house paint or graffiti
art.
MM2 BUGGIES: The buggies featured here are simple and are loaded head to tow with supplies,and maybe a tire.
Some didn't carry supplies at all.
OTHER: A roll cage surrounded with Monster truck tires and machine guns everywhere. Basically it looked like something
from GI JOE.
This goes the same with the trucks in MM2 as well.
As far as mauraders are concerned. Miller had several gangs who all wore specific but simple uniforms VS. other films where everyone looks like a biker that shops at Hot Topic.
No one else can get it right. It's gotten to the point where people see junk and say MAD MAX!!!
That just pisses me off. MAD MAX was nothing like that at all. Even you compare Thunderdome to that there are some big Differences.
Others Can't Get MM2 Vehicles Right
Others Can't Get MM2 Vehicles Right
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Well, it is said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. The cars and buggies from the 3 films have a distinctive look because they are distinctively Australian. All others are copies, some well done, others not. George Miller created his own universe, the "Miller-verse" if you will, a style of which no one has been able to equal, much less surpass. A master story-teller is at work here. I'm sure George put much thought into how this world was structured and how it looked. The original and the best. In any subsequent "knock-off" film or story, the purpose was to ride on Miller's coattails and just make a fast buck. I seriously doubt that the same amount of thought and care went into these efforts. Miller wasn't looking to get rich quick. He's an artist with a vision. The vehicles in these knock-offs don't look like Mad Max vehicles because they aren't. These imitators don't have the same vision because they are not in touch with the Miller-verse. Or as the character Rebel said in "Running On Empty", "You're giving it all the agony but missing all the style." These imitators really don't know what they are trying to accomplish. It could be that they are looking at the Miller-verse from a non-Aussie point of view. Most of the machines are Oz-only. I first saw MM2 in 1982 and it took me over 3 years to figure out what the BoB was based on. Forget about trying to ID the other cars. The thought is that if you can't build a copy, build something that is in the same spirit thereof. I'm sure some director thought the vehicles didn't look battle-ready enough so the thought was to add un-needed guns and armor. And where did you see vehicle mounted machine guns in any of the first 2 films? I didn't see any automatic weapons until MM3. The only belt-fed I saw was a M-60 in the hands of Blackfinger at the end but he didn't fire it.Bad cop wrote:I've scrounged through the internet and have found many pictures of weird custom jalopies, wrecks, armored vehicles ,and people say ''Looks like something from Mad Max''. Truth be told they don't. Everyone sees a graffited car with random stuff welded all over it or a SUV armored like a tank it's automatically something similar to Mad Max...um it's not.
George Miller ,and the designers were very specific to what the vehicles looked like in Mad Max 2. They were basic and simple. They were just custom cars or old cars with some missing parts.
MM2 CARS: Custom muscle cars or police cars with custom parts like Duel tires,Side Pipes,Blowers,cool paint jobs,spoilers.
Some also had missing parts like lights or a hood but were made to look they would be repaired soon enough.
The missmatched parts like the grills were made to look like they were part of manufactured cars original body
and not crudely welded on. Also Machine guns everywhere in random spots.
OTHER: Other films or people think an example of a MM2 car is that is extremly armored like a tank, has no windows,and
random parts must be welded everywhere with no purpose. The paint job usually consists of house paint or graffiti
art.
MM2 BUGGIES: The buggies featured here are simple and are loaded head to tow with supplies,and maybe a tire.
Some didn't carry supplies at all.
OTHER: A roll cage surrounded with Monster truck tires and machine guns everywhere. Basically it looked like something
from GI JOE.
This goes the same with the trucks in MM2 as well.
As far as mauraders are concerned. Miller had several gangs who all wore specific but simple uniforms VS. other films where everyone looks like a biker that shops at Hot Topic.
No one else can get it right. It's gotten to the point where people see junk and say MAD MAX!!!
That just pisses me off. MAD MAX was nothing like that at all. Even you compare Thunderdome to that there are some big Differences.
And on the gang "uniforms", there again, Miller apparently understands the concept of uniforms and unit cohesion. Wearing a matching outfit gives the wearer the feeling of belonging to something bigger then himself and promotes a sense of brotherhood and camaraderie. Anyone who has been in military service can attest to this. In the knock-off, again it's all visual but no substance. These people look at the films and never see Gayboy Berzerkers or Smegma Crazies, they just see leather and biker gear. They have no idea what they are really looking at.
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Re: Others Can't Get MM2 Vehicles Right
Your Absoulty Right.
My friend and I want to do an apocalyptic movie and I'm trying to design vehicles from Australia,USA,and Europe and trying to give them the MM2 style. It's hard.
The film DOOMSDAY came kind of close but Neil Marshall I think created his vision of vehicles as well.
My friend and I want to do an apocalyptic movie and I'm trying to design vehicles from Australia,USA,and Europe and trying to give them the MM2 style. It's hard.
The film DOOMSDAY came kind of close but Neil Marshall I think created his vision of vehicles as well.
"Between them and us, there's not enough runway!"
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Good points. I agree that Miller et al gave their world a lot of thought. Often I'll think about the marauders and their outfits and think it's all a little bit silly, but you see it in real life all the time (LA gangs, for example, with very specific dress codes, or even biker gangs with their colors). There are obvious parallels to American Westerns not only in the story (it's no secret Miller and Kennedy studied them for structure), but in the costuming (good guys wear white, bad guys wear black, amoral lone drifter anti-hero looks like the bad guys--except in, for example, Shane, where the hero wore...gak...head-to-toe buckskin), but in terms of vehicles, I think the approach to them is particularly Australian. (I was in awe the first time I saw the roof spoilers in MM.)
Doomsday obviously aped MM2, but I think there was more of an overall feeling of "Hey, what if everybody could just dress like they wanted to?"--although in terms of logistics and organization, it seems even more farfetched. But Rhona Mitra looked awesome, and that's all I really cared about.
Doomsday obviously aped MM2, but I think there was more of an overall feeling of "Hey, what if everybody could just dress like they wanted to?"--although in terms of logistics and organization, it seems even more farfetched. But Rhona Mitra looked awesome, and that's all I really cared about.

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After the apocalypse im going into the black leather clothing business.
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Re: Others Can't Get MM2 Vehicles Right
toecutter wrote:After the apocalypse im going into the black leather clothing business.
Will that be "Gayboy Bezerkers Gentlemens Outfitters" ?

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Re: Others Can't Get MM2 Vehicles Right
I think it's true that most people don't get the MM2 look right. The cars had a dinstinct look, and very few people seem to have gotten close. I don't think the Australian factor is really the main factor, though. It's just about choosing the right car, and then tastefully making the right mods to it. The car on the RoadwarUSA.com homepage was in my opinion, the best MM2-inspired car that I've seen. (Sorry - my site may be down for a couple days.)
It's also hard to find too many great costumes out there. I agree that many people make the mistake of building cars & costumes that just have "too much going on." They weld useless metal crap to their cars, or they layer random crap onto their costumes. The cars in the films were done with taste: they were simple overall, and all the mods seemed to have purpose or were done with a lot of thought and executed by professionals. The costumes were also fairly simple in design, yet really made the characters unique and iconic.
Here's an example of what I think is a bad post-apocalyptic costume:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/futursimple/2246947254
Lots of cheap junk that was just laying around attached to the guy, with really nothing remarkable underneath. Aside from maybe the hat, the guy has no "look" to him. He just looks like the wind blew some uninteresting garbage onto him.
One of the biggest misconceptions that car builders have is that Mad Max cars must be flat black. That's simply not the case at all if you watch MM2.
Of course, let's not assume that just because people were influenced by MM2, that they were really trying to copy the style exactly. A lot of filmmakers might say, "I love MM2, but let's do something a little different."
It's also hard to find too many great costumes out there. I agree that many people make the mistake of building cars & costumes that just have "too much going on." They weld useless metal crap to their cars, or they layer random crap onto their costumes. The cars in the films were done with taste: they were simple overall, and all the mods seemed to have purpose or were done with a lot of thought and executed by professionals. The costumes were also fairly simple in design, yet really made the characters unique and iconic.
Here's an example of what I think is a bad post-apocalyptic costume:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/futursimple/2246947254
Lots of cheap junk that was just laying around attached to the guy, with really nothing remarkable underneath. Aside from maybe the hat, the guy has no "look" to him. He just looks like the wind blew some uninteresting garbage onto him.
One of the biggest misconceptions that car builders have is that Mad Max cars must be flat black. That's simply not the case at all if you watch MM2.
Of course, let's not assume that just because people were influenced by MM2, that they were really trying to copy the style exactly. A lot of filmmakers might say, "I love MM2, but let's do something a little different."
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You cannot argue with Karol on that. Bubba said it well also. You have to do it with style, whatever it is.
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Yeah! If you really think about the cars in Mad Max 2 were just standard muscle cars with blowers,pipes,ect. the kind of cars you see at car shows.
"Between them and us, there's not enough runway!"
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I thought this looked pretty good (if maybe a little over the top):

I think it belongs to Death Guild; the pic is from an article on Burning Man.
http://131.193.153.231/www/issues/issue ... index.html
FWIW.

I think it belongs to Death Guild; the pic is from an article on Burning Man.
http://131.193.153.231/www/issues/issue ... index.html
FWIW.
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