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Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 4:23 pm
by Mad Serge
Hello,

I will cut right to the chase and formulate in this message what I didn't like about this new entry: on the one hand, I was under the impression that Miller was a little heavy handed with the "myth" aspect. For example, showing us right at the beginning that the action is set in the middle of Australia, the History Man calling Furiosa the fifth horseman of the apocalypse or the Jack character, who is obviously some sort of "Max" archetype, etc. I wished George Miller would trust his audience - even the popcorn crunchers - a bit more; there's no need to spell everything out. On the other hand, there's many scenes which are "chaotic" or confusing in the sense that there's way too much happening on the screen (hence requiring multiple viewings) blink and you will miss it kind of thing. A lot of details in the background and the foreground. This isn't a bad thing in itself but I found the sharp difference between the on-the-nose moments and the chaotic, complexity-true-to-life ones quite jarring at times.

Some of the characters, unfortunately, didn't amount to much. In the context of the film, I thought their presence was superfluous, if not distracting, quite frankly. I was specifically disappointed by Scrotus in comparison to his non-canon counterpart.

We were promised a "Wasteland War" that, alas, we didn't really get. Near the end of the film we are told that there's one going on but the narrative quickly shifts to Furiosa's revenge. Now it's understandable for budget and/or practical reasons in terms of scope. But just imagine if Miller had the ambition to actually make one, that would have blown us away! I can't help but perceive the action scenes (chases and assaults) as "road wars" not dissimilar to Fury Road, under that aspect.

Feel free to share your thoughts and comments about the film! ;)

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 6:10 pm
by TheFilmist
I was fine with not seeing too much of the full War aspect - I don't know if this was where Miller's head was at, but it kind of reminded me of Visconti's historical epics like Senso and The Leopard, both of which are these big, sweeping films that take place over a lot of years that only show or mention a big, giant war in passing, in order to foreground or reinforce character.

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 9:17 am
by Turbofurball
Thank you for taking the time to make a spoiler-free review / take :) Because of where I live I won't be able to see it until it's out on streaming services, so for the moment I'll just have to sit on my hands

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 12:15 pm
by Mud Guts
Just watch it in 4DX but not in 3D. I thought it was excellent. It has a different feel to the other MM films. I will definitely go and watch it again in 2D in the cinemas.
I hope it does well so George Miller is asked to make another MM film.

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 2:30 pm
by Taipan
Melvin Zed explained it to me the best:

Furiosa is to Fury Road what MMBT is to MM2.

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 2:40 pm
by henry2
Just saw it for the second time, absolutely love it!

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:44 am
by Immortan Joecutter
Taipan wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 2:30 pm Melvin Zed explained it to me the best:

Furiosa is to Fury Road what MMBT is to MM2.
I wouldn't go that far. Furiosa isn't that bad either.

Perhaps in a more tragic way than we think yet, because the box office predictions for Furiosa are catastrophic. I hate to say it but as it seems now it will end up being a box office flop of epic proportions :roll:
Let's face it: Thunderdome buried the original trilogy almost 40 years ago and Furiosa (...) I won't go on any further.

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:49 am
by Immortan Joecutter
Did anyone recognize Tim Burns (Johnny the Boy) in the movie ?

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 6:40 am
by Mad Serge
TheFilmist wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 6:10 pm I was fine with not seeing too much of the full War aspect - I don't know if this was where Miller's head was at, but it kind of reminded me of Visconti's historical epics like Senso and The Leopard, both of which are these big, sweeping films that take place over a lot of years that only show or mention a big, giant war in passing, in order to foreground or reinforce character.
The Leopard is on my "watch list"! I see what you mean and agree. My issue is that without the addition of the voice-over talking about the "40 days Wasteland War" with composite stills you couldn't really guess that there's a war going on - in comparison to the rest of the movie.
Turbofurball wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 9:17 am Thank you for taking the time to make a spoiler-free review / take :) Because of where I live I won't be able to see it until it's out on streaming services, so for the moment I'll just have to sit on my hands
You're welcome! I'm sorry to hear that. In which country do you live, if you don't mind my asking?
Immortan Joecutter wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:44 am
Taipan wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 2:30 pm Melvin Zed explained it to me the best:

Furiosa is to Fury Road what MMBT is to MM2.
I wouldn't go that far. Furiosa isn't that bad either.
MMBT has an actual soundtrack. :mrgreen:
Immortan Joecutter wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:44 am
Perhaps in a more tragic way than we think yet, because the box office predictions for Furiosa are catastrophic. I hate to say it but as it seems now it will end up being a box office flop of epic proportions :roll:
I hear you but, sincerely, I always perceived Furiosa as some sort of "bonus" (for a lack of a better term) because Furiosa, The Wasteland and the Mad Max comic book were originally conceived as media tie-ins to the release of the Fury Road movie. It shows that Furiosa should/could have been an anime; after all the actual movie is divided into chapters. Hence I find it less "authentic" than Three Thousand Years of Longing which is its own thing. Even if the latter is a lesser film, IMHO. So if Furiosa does flop, then keep in mind that we had at least one "bonus" out of two. It could have been zero. Plus, box office aside, does George Miller really want to make The Wasteland (now as a TV series)? The answer isn't obvious, at least to me. I hope it brings some solace.
Immortan Joecutter wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:44 am and Furiosa (...) I won't go on any further.
Feel free to speak out your mind.
Immortan Joecutter wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 2:49 am Did anyone recognize Tim Burns (Johnny the Boy) in the movie ?
Honestly, I didn't.

Re: Furiosa | the spoiler-free thread

Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 2:45 pm
by Immortan Joecutter
Immortan Joecutter wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2024 2:44 am
and Furiosa (...) I won't go on any further.
Feel free to speak out your mind.
...and Furiosa will go down (at least in the public eye) as a failure and THE film which killed the whole franchise.

Very sad...

I am pretty sure we won't get another movie from Miller in the future and Furiosa will be his final film. And this has nothing to do with current box office numbers. Like you I always looked at Furiosa as a sort of bonus or a gift from Miller and I'm very happy with it.