Quote: Originally posted by AdrianUK on 16 April 2007
All we are doing is turning the muslim world more and more against the west........have we learnt nothing?
Adi,Yer my bro but i gotta disagree with ya there what you said.The Muslim world hates us regardless,becuase of our wealth and excess.They wish to have laws that treat women as slaves and barring them from just about everything.Thier invading Europe like roaches and trying to destroy us from the inside out.imagine Europe with nothing but mosque toweres and sandland jibberish beings spoken everywhere and women wearing bedsheets in the streets.My whole point I'm trying to make is regardless if we attacked Iraq first the radical Muslims would still be trying to destroy the western world.the rest of what ya said I 100% agree with ya on
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Your right Bart, the 'cancer' was there well before Afghanistan or Iraq,it just seems that everytime we get involved in the muslim world we just give them more ammo to fire back.
We have somehow strayed to "politics" here. That means that a "peace" between radical Islam can be negotiated.
"What a puny plan"
Bart, a HUGE international incident is when the President of Iran says he will use the atom bomb to bring Isreal to extinction. Their whole everyday lives are based on this. THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL THAT IS NOT THEM. If the President of the United States said "the second I get the chance I am going to vaporize (your country name here) we would have world pandemonium. As hard as it sounds. As hard as it is. The only way to to end this is to exterminate radical Islam from existence. And then when the shooting is over it is turned it over to the Isrealis to hunt down the rest. To let them survive will surely bringhorror upon us all, once again. And as far as that boat is concerned, Bart, I remember when Abu Nidal asked for passports on an airplane and then executed the American sailors. and what about that wheel chair incident on the Achille Lauro. Never mind Munich. No world outrage on that. This has been coming for a long time.
No outrage about any of that. And now there is a hint of outrage because the enemy is dying too much. The enemy. Look at the films again of those planes going in to the Trade Center. LOOK AT IT over again. The policy for FOREVER will not not matter if Dennis Rodman is elected as president in his own wedding dress taking vows with a barking dog! Whether anyone likes it or not...ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dying time is here"
"Thats what hurts! He's drivin' one of our V8's!!"
This thread will go if the posts continue along this path......
Waht is more pathetic is the fact that the posters on here seem more interested in spreading hatred and supporting the destruction of a certain race instead of MadMax.
Pictures of the Easternats seems to have drawn a ho-hum approach from some of the posters here in this thread....
I suggest if you want to peddle death.... go find some other place to do it....
Any of the usual abusive replies will get deleted as per usual.
I have left Melbourne on a high note... only to have to read this thread and see the whole Madmax image being destroyed yet again....
Well, in all fairness RWMFP, this is "Thunderdome"...
Adrian, my take on why the U.S. went into Iraq is primarily PNAC, the Project for a New American Century, a plan peddled by Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, et.al. for twenty years. In George W. Bush, they finally got a taker, after George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and Benjamin Netanyahou all turned them down. The main idea was getting boots on the ground in the Middle East. September 11th provided the excuse, but Afghanistan wasn't centrally located or important enough, so began the Iraqi adventure. I'm sure Bush had visions of history and posterity and immortality in mind when the PNACers were whispering in his ear, but I don't think it's gone as easily as they convinced him it would.
Personally, I wouldn't have had a problem with the PNAC plan, if it had been implemented in Afghanistan, where we had a globally recognized reason to be.
"""Well, in all fairness RWMFP, this is "Thunderdome"..."""
In all fairness i am one of the moderators.... and Thunderdome was not set up so people can preach killing, murder and incite hatred...
This is a "discussion area"..... for other topics
Discuss the issues.... yes great.... but as soon as that line is crossed into which people start preaching about killing people or a certain race or religion then it is no longer a discussion....
Those rules were set out quite clearly when thunderdome was opened....
But again some people seem to have issues with it....
a lot of this discussion appear to be based on US ideals and ugly ideas of exterminating a race of people in their home country. So lets consider an imaginary reverse scenario...
Firstly, imagine a huge very powerful nation known as the "United Arab States" (UAS) Exists. It has a lot of guns and is used to getting what it wants.
It looks at a foreign culture of The USA. From the UAS perspective, they see the USA as a violent decadent culture, full of apparently backwards cultural relics like pronography, scantily clad girls, alcohol and poverty (look at New Orleans).
They see the past acts of the USA rigging elections in south America and attempting to overthrow governments and decide that the USA sponsors terrorism. They also decide that the USA is a clear danger. They also conclude that the USA has nuk-u-lar (nuclear) and chemical weapons (Which in fact they do).
Because they are so insular and don't bother considering any other cultural viewpoints other than their own, The UAS decides that the USA has oil resources they want and invades them citing a lie as their reason. They say that they will bring a new form of government and replace the USA's backwards corrupt democracy.
The islamic president of the UAS, (Ali W. Boosh) appears shortly after the invasion in a carefully managed press opportunity on a UAS aircraft carrier and declares victory.
He gives contracts for rebuilding america to all his best mates and their Arab companies and they all get very rich.
Once "Major UAS combat operations" finsh, The American civilians get angry and form guerilla armys to try and kick the Arab UAS soldiers out of their country. But when this happens, the UAS soldiers call them "inurgents" and "terrorists" and have no-idea why they are fighting against the UAS soldiers who brought islamic "FREEDOM" and "PEACE" to the former USA.
However ever since the USA govt was toppled, the country also decends into civil war between states from the south and the north, this war has a long history and has been simmering for years... why cant they jut get along says the Arab goverment?
Fighters from both north and south are called terrorists and insurgents by the UAS government...
Finally the Arab president, decides he can "Win" this war by sending a surge of Arab UAS soldiers to "Defeat" the American inurgents and terrorists...
This whole thing sounds quite rediculous doesnt it!!! Except that its happening right now (in reverse). For some reason, the Americans think thats ok...
Guess what it would be like if the tables were reversed.
Yes Dave,the world exept the USA is a peaceful loving existance.This is what i f**king hate on here,Its ok to blame and bash the USA But heavens to betsy if its the other way around One of the MOD GODS chesters in here with a barrage of threats and warnings.How bout NO politics PERIOD on here since it USUALLY ends up bashing the United States!Several countries are involved in the Iraq conflict its a viscious circle on all fronts.Right now some HNIC in Ausutralia is f**king over someone,same for Great Britian,Norway,Scotland,f**king Paraguay too.the worlds NOT perfect.Whys the world ignoring Darfur? Hell just yesterday over 100 people got wasted in Somalia over some political bullsh*t.over 150 got blown to sh*t in Iraq a couple of days ago and it wasn't by my countries Nazi horrid war monger military either!
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