I think there's more to the RW final chase scene.

[Taipan]

I posted something about it in 'Another thought provoking question', no response so far, but the more I look at the final chase scene, the more hidden themes it seems to have.





I'm starting to think that Miller wanted to slip some other meanings under excess violence of the final chase scene. Let's retrospect -





(OK, now I'm gonna just repeat what I said previously about Max's U turn etc)





Papagallo realizes that the cap is off, and sand is pouring out. Catches up with Max, shrugs at him ("what now?"), Max not realizing that he's hauling sand looks back at the road as if he was saying "we drive on". Papagallo wants to save the kid (he knows that it's a suicide mission from now on), tells him to jump, that it's all over (look at where he looked after he said "We've won!"). Of course, it's over for them, because they fooled the vermin into following them.





Then Pappagallo gets killed by Humungus, who MUST have seen the sand too! I mean it's pouring right in his face.


So he's angry now, and gets a beating from the Gyrocaptain.





Max is taking revenge for Papagallo. Turns around the truck right after Humungus is left behind. He's gonna kill him, tells the kid to get the last shell for him. Then there's the bonnet situation with Wez, and the final crash. You might think that Humungus was running so fast that he just couldn't have avoided the truck. I say - Humungus committed a suicide.


How long did it take for Wez to turn around, for Kid to hide in the cab, and Max to notice that he's running straight at Humungus? A load of time. What was Humungus doing at that time? Running straight forward. He knew he was going to die, it was a duel. Humungus lost killing himself.





I think he just wanted to show his 'puppies' how badass he was, although it may sound unbelievable. But he definitely saw the sand pouring out of the tanker, did he feel screwed? I don't think he died in the name of gasoline, I think it was pride. If that was a suicide, he just jumped onto the top of my badass motherf**ker villains of all time.





Maybe I'm going too much into this scene, but to me, it's just too obvious to perceive it on a superficial level. There are many holes in that scene, but if you actually think of it, it makes much more sense, and shows that it's deeper than just 20 mins of killing and ramming.


Have a look at that scene again. Tell me what you think.





BTW - I don't think that cap+sand scene is a goof. What I think is a goof is the scene when Papagallo hits the tanker after he's been hit - there's no sand pouring out. Later on as Humungus approaches, the cap is off again.

[lord humungus]

with all due respect i think you are over analysizing the movie. i hardly think humungus kills poppagellos for revenge as there is little real indicatio nthat the marauders had seen the sand pouring out. not ot say it wasn't obvious the way it was blowing behinde the tanker i jsut seen the movie so many times that i can't detect any body langauge or move movements to say. the maraders knew they were tricked and that humungus wanted revenge.


i mean take the partign shots of the marauders the can cleary see the spout now and they see sand pouring out it seems only then that the tow truck guys and the rest realize they were duped and lost.


now you may have ab it mroe of a theroy on the uturn that might make some sense i jsut don't get that max was all that attatched to the compund crew even at the end. so why want revenge for popagellos it's jsut not like max plus with all that was going on around him do you relaly htink he knew humongus was that far behinde him?


but lastly it couldn't been suicide on humungus part you say he had ampnle time to start but yo uforgot to factor in the fact that humungus had hit his nitrous you really htink he had time to stop if he wanted to and even if he had stopped max wouldn't have especialy not with a rig armored like that. i think it was a game of chicken at most and humungus lost cause that's how he rolls humungus was used to peopel backing down if anythign he wanted to tear max and that boy apart "twas ego that killed the beast." but again jsut my opion i watched the movie so many times i lost count and am about to watch it again soon for more vehicle refs.


while miller was making statments in the movie i jsut think you may have picked up on the wrong ones jsut as people tend to say wez was a pedophile when there are scenes and stuff i nthe orginal script to say otherwise. but let me watch the movie one last time to make sure what might be there or not and see if either of us hold that much water. personaly i think the main theme was just about trickery and show downs.

[DoctorDeals]

The reason Max did the u-turn because he was supposed to get the tanker back to the meeting point at the bridge where the other people from the compound were headed.


Because Max thought he had the fuel for them to make it to paradise, he eventually had to turn around and head back to meet them to deliever the fuel. He probably aimed to wipe out as many marauders as he could along the way in the hope the compound people would be able to take out the remaining ones once he arrived at the bridge.


And I don't think the marauders saw the dirt before we did either.

[Taipan]

yeah, i know i'm over analyzing the movie. There were some pieces that didn't fit, some things unclear and you know....a piece from here, a piece from there, and I got myself my own conspiracy theory. The most important thing is that it makes you wanna watch it again, right?





Anyway - lord humungs - How did Max know how far Humungus was? I dunno. I guess he realized that part of the gang stopped to put out the car, but then again, he was attacked violently by other trucks, so yeah, I guess he just wanted to get some help from the compound people/head to the meeting spot.





And the crash? Humungus's ego. That was a game of chicken and he lost. That's probably why the rest of the gang just returned.





I dunno, At least I've got my personal alternative Mad Max interpretation, ha.

[I-5 Apocalypse]

I analyze every scene under a microscope, and can tear it up in a whole lot of ways. My conclusion is, "Check out those EXPLOSIONS, and the CRASHES, the cars rule, and etc. etc. etc.

[blackmocco]

Nah Taipan. I think it's pretty obvious that when Humungus engages the nitrous and blasts himself into warp speed he's unaware Max has turned the tanker around further ahead. He's going too fast at that point to get out of the way. I mean, let's face it: What would be the point of playing chicken with a much larger, heavier vehicle...?

[rockatansky4073]

I don't think theres anything wrong with over analyzing the MAD MAX movies, why the f**k else are we here, everyone on here used to do that, and noone even batted an eyelid - sh*t i once started a thread on MAX's pillows for christ sake, thats how over analytical i am of the MAX's - i was trying to see if the pillow in Part 1, he wakes up from with his nightmare, was the same in part 2, since it had the same areas stained on it


The thread was quite a success, everyone had an opinion.

[macafee]

WELL I WANNA KNOW ARE THE BAD COPS IN MAD MAX 2....EX MAIN FORCE COPS ....OR VERMIN WHO HAVE KILLED MFP OFFICERS AND WEARING DRIVING THERE CARS AS TROPHYS?

[Chase Bansi]

I often wondered about the bad cops myself....


Or if they are cops from before the MFP was established.

[Taipan]

Quote: Originally posted by rockatansky4073 on 12 March 2007




I don't think theres anything wrong with over analyzing the MAD MAX movies, why the f**k else are we here, everyone on here used to do that, and noone even batted an eyelid - sh*t i once started a thread on MAX's pillows for christ sake, thats how over analytical i am of the MAX's - i was trying to see if the pillow in Part 1, he wakes up from with his nightmare, was the same in part 2, since it had the same areas stained on it

The thread was quite a success, everyone had an opinion.

true true. so that means everybody who registers here is an instant nutcase. i like that!








as for the....what are they called? gay berserkers or something? Anyway, i think they are just Humungus' little minions driving stolen MFP cars. That's for sure. But they could be ex MFP officers too. They'd be everyone's bitches by then. Maybe that's why they call em gay berserkers (?) if you know what i mean.