My biggest problem with the movie

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Is this even still a debate? If you're still trying to force an obvious reboot into the original trilogy's canon then you probably have to throw out Mad Max 1 as well. Unless things changed or the early viewers totally misunderstood what they saw, Max's flashbacks of his DAUGHTER kind of punches a huge hole into the timeline.
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Mad Max RW wrote:Is this even still a debate? If you're still trying to force an obvious reboot into the original trilogy's canon then you probably have to throw out Mad Max 1 as well. Unless things changed or the early viewers totally misunderstood what they saw, Max's flashbacks of his DAUGHTER kind of punches a huge hole into the timeline.
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Mad Max RW wrote:Is this even still a debate? If you're still trying to force an obvious reboot into the original trilogy's canon then you probably have to throw out Mad Max 1 as well. Unless things changed or the early viewers totally misunderstood what they saw, Max's flashbacks of his DAUGHTER kind of punches a huge hole into the timeline.
Thats actually up for some debate as some of those who saw it seemed to suggest it wasn't Max's daughter given she calls and refers to him as "Max" and not "dad", "daddy", "father" etc and that possibly it was just a vision of someone Max didn't, couldn't or failed to save.
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My biggest problem with the movie is I haven't seen it yet
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If this is a "reboot", it's interesting that it seems to replace the second film, rather than retelling the origin. Maybe this is Miller's more thought-out sequel to MM2, taking place in a reality where Max doesn't crash, but outruns Wez when he leaves the compound. Miller's correcting the "mistake" of MM3BT (don't jump on me Uncle, I'm just offering a theory. I like BT).
I think this principle was what Gene Roddenberry was using when Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan was made. All new uniforms, Kirk seeing the refurbished Enterprise--the first Star Trek film was so badly received that ST II was like a do-over.
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DGSimo wrote:
Mad Max RW wrote:Is this even still a debate? If you're still trying to force an obvious reboot into the original trilogy's canon then you probably have to throw out Mad Max 1 as well. Unless things changed or the early viewers totally misunderstood what they saw, Max's flashbacks of his DAUGHTER kind of punches a huge hole into the timeline.
Thats actually up for some debate as some of those who saw it seemed to suggest it wasn't Max's daughter given she calls and refers to him as "Max" and not "dad", "daddy", "father" etc and that possibly it was just a vision of someone Max didn't, couldn't or failed to save.
In the credits there's a character called 'Hope' that's some small girl. Could this be the girl in the flashback?
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Redd4 wrote:If this is a "reboot", it's interesting that it seems to replace the second film, rather than retelling the origin. Maybe this is Miller's more thought-out sequel to MM2, taking place in a reality where Max doesn't crash, but outruns Wez when he leaves the compound. Miller's correcting the "mistake" of MM3BT (don't jump on me Uncle, I'm just offering a theory. I like BT).
I think this principle was what Gene Roddenberry was using when Star Trek II The Wrath Of Khan was made. All new uniforms, Kirk seeing the refurbished Enterprise--the first Star Trek film was so badly received that ST II was like a do-over.
Yeh, I'm a Trek geek too...only Original Series, though..
It's not replacing the second film but, as Brendan McCarthy went on record saying, more of what a follow up to Mad Max 2 should of been and what people wanted. How true that ends up being...will find out in May.

OT regarding Star Trek but I believe Nicholas Meyer was mostly responsible for the design change and a more Military/Navy Starfleet for Star Trek II. If I recall correctly Roddenberry was quite against it.
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DGSimo wrote:OT regarding Star Trek but I believe Nicholas Meyer was mostly responsible for the design change and a more Military/Navy Starfleet for Star Trek II. If I recall correctly Roddenberry was quite against it.
It's true, Nicholas Meyer was brought in to replace Roddenberry because of the lackluster success of the first Star Trek movie.
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The biggest problem i have is the fact Miller has already explained Fury Road but people dont seem to care what he says...
If you dont want to listen to the creator, then you may as well keep "theorising" as much as you like.

Miller used the terms "re-imagining" when describing Fury Road.
When asked how long AFTER THUNDER DOME does fury road take place he siad "it can be 30days or 30yrs".

Fury Road has nothing to do with the orginal series other then the character "Mad Max" wandering the wastelands.
In reality its not even MM4 because its not a sequel to Thunderdome (MM3).
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roadwarriormfp wrote:Fury Road has nothing to do with the orginal series other then the character "Mad Max" wandering the wastelands.
I hope you're right because if Fury Road references something hokey from its past like that last stupid Star Trek movie(Harrison is really Khan) or that stupid Prometheus movie(showing the original Alien from Alien at the end) or that stupid Indy Jones 4 movie(Shia being the lost son, every single minute) then I'm going to be really pissed.

By the way, there should be a name for these 80's reboots/remakes/re-imaginings where they introduce a crappy reference to their prequel brethren from 3 decades ago.
Here's a suggestion: re-imoaning.
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