Yeah, I do get that and share the feeling. Same goes for timeline and reboot issues.Taipan wrote:But the last thing I want is so called critique because there's no Mel in it from people acting like they've woken up from a 30 year old coma.
Mad Max: Fury Road Theatrical Teaser Trailer #1
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Brilliant insights here - it's as thought MM and RW were something uniquely special and are about to be prostituted by modern CGI garbage, fake charades and over-the-top totally unrealistic action, shaky cam filming, and other tech noir and fads ala "Fast and Furious" that will literally, in my view, not stand the test of time and ruin the franchise... couple that with the plot and story issues and complaints of re-introducing the Interceptor only to destroy it (reliving that anguish again of watching the onscreen death of my favorite car, as if once wasn't enough), the complaints that Hardy isn't up for the role made for Gibson, the timeline issues... It's all just too much to bear...MWFV8 wrote:During the pre-production and filming of Fury Road it was like they couldn't do anything right by our standards and I totally understood why the prodco forcefully kept their distance from us. Everything was torn to shreds from the concept art, to the script extracts, to the interviews, to the behind the scenes shots. We kept complaining the story was wrong, the timeline was messed up, the concepts were too comic book, the script extracts too hollywood, and the vehicles too wacky races. Miller himself was attacked over and over with calls that his integrity had been lost and he'd sold us all out.
Then the teaser comes out and we're all over the place. It's pretty much everything we feared, but there's these neat nods back the original movies and stunts are magnificent.
And something changed here. It was like Fury Road got accepted and suddenly we became the ones objectively defending the very criticisms we previously dished out.
Then it got weird. The trailer comes out and it all seems to have gone in an uncomfortable direction. Worse still, the very elements that blew our minds the first time round now literally alpha-masked behind unnecessary cgi dressing that detracts more than it brings. It's comical not only in intended tone but sadly in unintended production limitations.
And now it feels like we've taken some sort of emotional ownership of Fury Road and any criticism or concern is a personal attack. I'm struggling to get my head round it. Perhaps it's because we feel Mad Max is slipping from our grip as cult fans and being diluted into the masses as a whole new franchise that's moved on from us. Maybe we're just convincing ourselves something's there that really isn't so we can desperately cling onto something intangible but very personal.
It's like we've gone from the fanbase to fanboys (and girls), it feels like daring to critique or even interrogate what little we have is considered wrong here now while some individuals, the very members who were so quick to write the movie off if it was anything but realistic, seem to be losing their minds to be first in line, dressed in cosplay, at the stiles on opening night.
I honestly think that, right now, if I were to suggest Immortan Joe looks a bit silly, I'd be stonewalled immediately with people playing the 'well it's Hollywood, you leave Miller alone!' defense card.
Have we just completely lost our integrity and objectivity and prepared to forgive a multitude of sins on the basis a few vehicles have been jumped and crashed into one another?
This is particularly true given the fact that the MOST interesting period of Max's life is not the end of it, which is where FR is likely to take us. Instead, I bet most true fans would be interested in the period between Mad Max and Road Warrior... give us back Max in his prime, during the collapse. Give us back the virgin Interceptor. Give us back the dog.
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How about you just don't go and see it?
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But that would defeat the purpose of bitching about it for attention.Bomber wrote:How about you just don't go and see it?
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I absolutely love both trailers and wouldn't change anything. I'm getting more and more excited for this film! BTW, any info on the new original MAD MAX Blu-ray? 

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Those stunts in RW are not as real as you would like. They usually had a huge group of "stunt" cardboard boxes to land on. Not only that but most of the stunt had hidden ramps behind wreckage or land forms to give the cars a boost to make it over the walls so that's fake. Also the car jumping into the compound has a dummy in the back, so that's fake too.Stunts aren't "REAL" stunts when they are done in a green room jumping onto foam mats and super-imposed onto the movie. "REAL" stunts aren't super-imposing people onto jumping vehicles. Take RW - the biker who flew head over heels, did that for real and it was awesome. The car that flew into the compound, real people.
All the close up shots in the final chase on the truck, the truck is stationary and they just had guys shaking it for some movement and fans blowing on it to "fake' the truck moving fast. Also "fake". Watch the making of for some of the stunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7VoSauwJg
Not only that but many stuntmen were seriously hurt on that set and these days you could never shoot a film and do stunts like they did in RW, insurance and safety rules wouldn't allow it.
All the Fury Road stunts were done practically and where necessary composited together, I am sure if they had green screen technology back in the RW days they would of used it.
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As far as it being personal, you're definitely on to something MWFV8. Now that we've seen the trailers we realize it's not really Mad Max anymore:MWFV8 wrote:And now it feels like we've taken some sort of emotional ownership of Fury Road and any criticism or concern is a personal attack. I'm struggling to get my head round it. Perhaps it's because we feel Mad Max is slipping from our grip as cult fans and being diluted into the masses as a whole new franchise that's moved on from us. Maybe we're just convincing ourselves something's there that really isn't so we can desperately cling onto something intangible but very personal.
It's not Mad Max, it's Furiosa
It's not Mel, it's Tom
It's not Arkie Whiteley, it's Rosie Huntington-Whiteley
We're not 17 anymore, we're 50.
Even if we were 17 again, we're not the intended audience.
It's not the 80's anymore, it's almost the third decade of the 21st century.
It's not in Stereo, it's in 2D, 3D, REALD, ATMOS, IMAX and the movies were still more fun to watch in the 80's.
It's not the electric synergetic team of George Miller and Byron Kennedy, it's half that.
It's not the Interceptor, it's a bunch of monster trucks/Gigahorse.
It's not hardcore blood and violence, it's splojins' for kids.
It's not Aliens quality, it's Prometheus quality.
So what's happening to us is that the closer we get to Fury Road opening in the theaters we're desperately trying to hang onto the past, our youth. After May 15th, we're just old men talking about the good old days.
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Indeed, and it's not like a lot of it wasn't obvious either. The under-cranked footage in RW looks appalling by todays standards.P-Tron wrote:Those stunts in RW are not as real as you would like. They usually had a huge group of "stunt" cardboard boxes to land on. Not only that but most of the stunt had hidden ramps behind wreckage or land forms to give the cars a boost to make it over the walls so that's fake. Also the car jumping into the compound has a dummy in the back, so that's fake too.Stunts aren't "REAL" stunts when they are done in a green room jumping onto foam mats and super-imposed onto the movie. "REAL" stunts aren't super-imposing people onto jumping vehicles. Take RW - the biker who flew head over heels, did that for real and it was awesome. The car that flew into the compound, real people.
All the close up shots in the final chase on the truck, the truck is stationary and they just had guys shaking it for some movement and fans blowing on it to "fake' the truck moving fast. Also "fake". Watch the making of for some of the stunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN7VoSauwJg
Not only that but many stuntmen were seriously hurt on that set and these days you could never shoot a film and do stunts like they did in RW, insurance and safety rules wouldn't allow it.
All the Fury Road stunts were done practically and where necessary composited together, I am sure if they had green screen technology back in the RW days they would of used it.
"Wrong, we fight for a belief. I stay."
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Very well put and I think you've hit the nail on the head.kickherintheguts wrote:As far as it being personal, you're definitely on to something MWFV8. Now that we've seen the trailers we realize it's not really Mad Max anymore:MWFV8 wrote:And now it feels like we've taken some sort of emotional ownership of Fury Road and any criticism or concern is a personal attack. I'm struggling to get my head round it. Perhaps it's because we feel Mad Max is slipping from our grip as cult fans and being diluted into the masses as a whole new franchise that's moved on from us. Maybe we're just convincing ourselves something's there that really isn't so we can desperately cling onto something intangible but very personal.
It's not Mad Max, it's Furiosa
It's not Mel, it's Tom
It's not Arkie Whiteley, it's Rosie Huntington-Whiteley
We're not 17 anymore, we're 50.
Even if we were 17 again, we're not the intended audience.
It's not the 80's anymore, it's almost the third decade of the 21st century.
It's not in Stereo, it's in 2D, 3D, REALD, ATMOS, IMAX and the movies still were still more fun to watch in the 80's.
It's not the electric synergetic team of George Miller and Byron Kennedy, it's half that.
It's not the Interceptor, it's a bunch of monster trucks/Gigahorse.
It's not hardcore blood and violence, it's splojins' for kids.
It's not Aliens quality, it's Prometheus quality.
So what's happening to us is that the closer we get to Fury Road opening in the theaters we're desperately trying to hang onto the past, our youth. After May 15th, we're just old men talking about the good old days.
"Wrong, we fight for a belief. I stay."
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Seven Up sponsored the whole original MM2 chase. It's right there in full view during the whole truck chase. You really regards the original with rose tinted glasses.Or perhaps if they corporate sponsorship throughout the film - cans of ice cold Pepsi